I don’t know what I find more funny/surreal… that they drew 60 people, or that two of them were Andy Martin and Webster Tarpley.

Actually - here’s a real brain teaser for you…

Were Andy and Webster the two sanest people in the room?

Anyone ever think THAT would be a real question?

Isn’t Tarpley a former acolyte of Lyndon LaRouche?

Isn’t Tarpley a former acolyte of Lyndon LaRouche?

Yes… and one could legitimately argue it as the sanest bullet point in his body of work.

Interesting - those white t-shirts have the DNC “kicking ass” logo on them, which seems a bit off message for a group with such disdain for the DNC.

Let me guess, the majority of the attendees didn’t want their pictures taken. Mwahaha!!

PUMA power at it’s finest.

Wow, Darragh must have felt SOOOO young!

hahahahaha. This is beautiful. Darragh the reformed Republican looks might cozy with the anti-semite.

Actually, I’m not 100% sure that’s Darragh so I pulled the reference.

Wow.

One small point:

That’s Lyndon LaRouche devotee and 9/11 Truther Webster Tarpley showing off a little leg for the ladies. He wrote a book comparing Obama to Mussilini that was so PUMAwesome that Will Bower made him a PUMA cocktail pal so that he could pretend to be a disgruntled Democrat for CNN!

...so that he could pretend to be a disgruntled Democrat for CNN!

Well, LaRoucheniks do like to run as Democrats, in imitation of the master.

I would argue the caption stands as issued… LaRouchies like to run as CRAZY Democrats, so I think Tarpley would need dispensation to present as a disgruntled Democrat!

Too funny! I guess the final epic fail will be the PUMA turnout in Denver. There’s an item up on the PUMA PAC blog noting (in a dodgy way, of course) that they didn’t collect enough money to organize the fleet of buses they were promising. I’m starting to think there aren’t enough of them to swing a city council election in Buggletussle, Kentucky.

I hear Greyhound is running specials from Buggletussle, KY to East Bumblefuck, KS.

I hear Greyhound is running specials from Buggletussle, KY to East Bumblefuck, KS.

with stops in I Can’t believe we’re this lame Colorado, No darkies allowed Arizona and in Temecula California, home of Chapparal High School, which, as you smart alecks could have guessed, is home to the ... PUMAS!!!!@!

Looks like about 20 people to me.  Maybe the other 40 were under cover.

When I first learned about the move to the Country Inn, I speculated that they would be holding the function in the parking lot.  And I was right.

HA HA HA HA HA!

Digg it up!

One more thing…Bower and Murphy are scheduled for Hardball tonight.  I can’t wait to hear how they spin this.

I guarantee you part of the spin will be they moved the conference and not many people showed up because they feared for their lives from the thuggish unrelenting Obamabot youf “threatening” to swarm the Marriot, pee in the pool and key their Winabagos.

Either that or i just gave them a talking point.

They moved the conference, but most of the PUMAs didn’t get the memo… that’s why there are so few.

Also, most of the people left before the group photo.  Didn’t they use that line before?

Will and Daragh are on Hardball now, making complete asses out of themselves.

That audio is just so awesome.  I could visualize Sheri Tag jumping across the table to put her hand over Will’s mouth.  “Uh, uh, let’s take this offline.”

I’m guessing that they knew in advance attendence was going to be such a disappointment that if they announced the expected attendence, it might lead to another 20 cancellations.

Was just watching Schuster on Hardball interviewing Murphy and Bower.  I missed the first part of it, but he pwned them totally.

I’ll be looking for the video…

Was just watching Schuster on Hardball interviewing Murphy and Bower.  I missed the first part of it, but he pwned them totally.

Really.  That’s excellent.  I sent Hardball a link to this post in the morning, but don’t know how good they are at checking email.  Unfortunately, if Schuster slayed them, don’t look for the PUMAs to be uploading it to YouTube any time soon ... unless they want to bitch about Schuster being a dick to them and moan about how much he hates the Clintons.

I recorded it but can’t get it off my U-verse DVR, except by re-shooting it with my camcorder. Not sure it’s worth looking at these two nutballs again anyway.

I just saw I was getting a lot of traffic and checked the logs and a lot of people are landing here after searching the Googles for Darragh Murphy and other searches like “Darragh Murphy Republican” and “Darragh Murphy McCain,” so I’m guessing Schuster called her on the McCain donation/vote in 2000.

He caught her off guard with the McCain donation question but she fessed up to it. Later she pledged that she was a Democrat and had always been a Democrat.

Darragh Murphy looks like a transgendered John Malkovich.

Oh, come on, Joel. She dint look that good. I was thinking a corpse, with about a week of decay.

hilarious stuff.

their “50 State Initiative” is probably not going to work out too well.

Shuster shredded them. It was fun to watch them both squirm a bit.
Shuster just stayed on point and keep making them look like the insignificant little republicrats they are. Darragh was totally thrown off balance by the Mc$hame donation question. Can’t wait till the convention and Obama is the official nominee and these people will stop being invited on any show on any channel because they frankly won’t matter.
Only a couple of weeks left for them to Make Noise.. lofl

Awesome

I put the video up on my blog. Also, Christina has the link so she’ll probably be putting it up soon.

Classic pwnage. No doubt.

That was teh awesome, Kevin.  You could tell the conference was EPIC FAIL even before the pictures started going up, because none of the Puma blogs were talking about it.  I had a hard time finding photos of the storied event; good on you for unearthing them.  Now if only we could attach more names to (scary) faces.

Awwwww ...  How Pumarific of them ...

Shuster absolutely destroyed those two clowns!  Hope the video goes viral.

I think Tommy C. is in the process of getting up on our AOL blog now.  If front-paged it will get mucho hits.

The part that none of you seem to get, or know and won’t admit to knowing, is that the television media controls everything.

After months and months of the most ridiculously one sided apoplectic rants against Hillary Clinton from Matthews and Olbermann and the friends of Huffington Post, of course the movement will have trouble percolating to fever pitch because the media keeps saying the race is over when it isn’t.

PUMA has done amazingly well in the short time it has had to grow because most people have no clue that there is NO nominee at this moment.  In LA I keep finding huge enclaves of people who love Hillary Clinton but just kind of think that the race is over, when it isn’t.

The number of pissed off democrats with their own blogs has exploded in the past two months.  I gave up trying to track them all.

Alessandro, no one hates Hillary Clinton here.  What a lot of us hate are the PUMA dead-enders who refuse to respect Hillary Clinton and her wishes.  You know, the ones who are working to elect John McCain, the man who stands for everything Hillary Clinton opposes.

Alice said “like the ridiculous caucus results that in no way came any where near to reflecting the actual popularity of each candidate in those states.”

Dude… you simply don’t understand how primaries work. The reason that there is a combination of primary states and caucus states, is to obtain different types of information about the candidates and their supporters. It’s not purely about shallow popularity. Caucus states indicate the enthusiasm gap, and who’s team is smarter and more willing to go that extra mile and pound the pavement.

A primary merely shows who would tick a box if they didn’t have to think too hard.

The party weighs certain districts with more delegates to win, based on complex assessments of the general election value of those constituants.

The “popular vote totals” put forward by PUMA types are about as relevant as whether or not Al Gore got every single resident of California to vote for him in 2000. It still would have only got him the 50 or so electoral college points.

Caucus states are won similarly to electoral college : by carrying the most separate regions. When Barack WON NEVADA by carrying the most delegates from the most precincts… the media noticed that a few extra thousand voters showed up to a few concentrated precincts in a few specific areas. The media cited her popular vote being higher.

So what? Those precincts only had so many electoral votes (delegates) up for grabs.

All candidates were told that the rules in caucus states was to win the most delegates.

If Barack had been told it was a popular vote game, he would have spent ALL his time in California and New York.

Sorry Alice. Your candidate was cool, but had bad management.

Alessandro-

If Hillary Clinton had won the primaries based on the rules that all parties agreed upon in advance, and a bunch of Barack Obama dead-enders/Republican coverts were causing trouble, I’d be lashing out at them, too.

I reviewed your list of “facts” that “prove” Hillary Clinton should be the nominee and most of them are conjective and don’t really prove anything.  Many of them create new metrics for success after the contest has already been completed; that doesn’t prove anything.

The basic premise is the caucus contests did not accurately measure the votes for each candidate.  The democratic party is supposed to believe in fair reflection, but the caucus results debunk fair reflection.

This issue is actually bigger than Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, it’s about money buying the higher ups in the democratic party who in turn have bought some of the delegates.

It’s also about the media actually rooting for one candidate over the other while portending to be reporting news, when they are actually manipulating and controlling the news.

Hey, I don’t know which one of the attendees you were.  I’m trying to place you in my mind.  But it is people like YOU that are the reason we had to close the conference to the hundreds of people who wanted to attend both physically and virtually.  We had tracked back a lot of planned mischief from our blogs.  I DO notice one thing though.  You don’t have any pictures from the cocktail parties where the real business took place.  That tells me all I need to know about *you*.

Jeez, Alessandro…

Change a few words and you sound like a LaRouchie!

Is your buddy Webster Tarpley holding up queue cards for you?

I’ve been volunteering for Barack Obama for better than 10 years now - I helped get signatures for his petition for his first state senate run - and I’ve never met George Soros, I’ve never seen George Soros, I’ve never heard Obama or anyone in the campaign mention George Soros… but Soros is his puppet master?

Are you sure it’s Hillary Clinton you support and not Lyndon LaRouche?

Alessandro, the caucuses and delegate selection process by which Obama won the nomination were in place long before this year’s primary. Clinton knew the rules going in. She had all the money, name recognition and other advantages that go with being a party insider. She lost because her campaign was mismanaged.

The political media in the US generally sucks—I’ll grant you that. But the problem isn’t that they’re controlling everything on behalf of George Soros. Just ask President Kerry. The problem is that they create and feed on cartoonish, vapid narratives instead of real policy differences, which is the only reason a joke of an organization like PUMA gets any airtime at all.

I don’t hate Hillary Clinton. If she had won, I’d vote for her this November. But I have nothing but contempt for the PUMAs and their GOP ratfucking leaders who are trying to subject this country to another 4 years of disastrous Republican rule. MSNBC outed 2 of you as the GOP frauds and tools you are.

But it is people like YOU that are the reason we had to close the conference to the hundreds of people who wanted to attend both physically and virtually.

Is there one of you left who isn’t addicted to lying?

The registration was closed because Country Inn (now with two extra cereal choices in its continental breakfast!) probably couldn’t handle more than 60 people in its palatial conference room. And if you guys wanted to do this virtually, you could have password blocked it. If there were 250 banging down the doors to register for the Wardman, you guys would have been there and Bower would have been splayed out naked in the lobby summoning the media to drop grapes into his mouth.

You don’t have any pictures from the cocktail parties where the real business took place.

Where did those wild PUMA cocktail parties take place? The Barefoot Pelican Grill & Bar? Mighty Mike’s Grill & Bar? The Cockpit Lounge?  It looks like the possibilities were endless for good times out there by the airport. Color me jealous.

Comedy gold from Alessandro Machi’s big list o’ 19:

(I need this one verified but I think it is completely accurate and therefore a fact).

And later:

FACT: Barack Obama has less senatorial experience than any president in the past 120 years.

If you don’t count Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Eisenhower, Roosevelt, ...

(I need this one verified but I think it is completely accurate and therefore a fact).

That is classic. Alessandro, come pick up your award.

Oh, that is too choice! Thanks for reporting this info. Those unstable nuts deserve all the outing they get.

Au contraire, peon of little value.  There were several conference sites proposed.  Since there were only a handful of people invited to the planning conference calls, you would have no way of knowing that.  We closed the conference after the first 60 because we wanted to minimize the infiltration of individuals and groups such as yourself and the LaRouchians.  There were some very angry people who were no happy about being left out.  But there wasn’t much choice. 
And now we see why.  Still, you missed the real discussions in the individual rooms over cocktails.  Too bad for you.

Hey you guys find this funny because PUMAs didn’t draw a crowd of thousands by providing a rock band and free eats.  Actually, doing the right thing sometimes is a lonely business.  And don’t forget that one major reason that Obama won the caucuses (aside from cheating) is that PUMA type people have jobs and families that keep them at home.  I wanted to attend this conference but the teenager, the elderly dad, and the high tech job took precedence.  If only I were a pimply faced college student with zero social connection to the real world, then I would’ve been there.  Keep jackin’ fellaz, because yourselves are all you’ve got.

Richard, you are practically drooling at your own magnificent pretzel logic and deep knowledge of electoral politics.  What are you, 17 years old?  What a ridiculous load of crap.  I hope you keep copies of your internet postings because some day when you’re old and wrinkly, say ... like .... 35 years old, you’re going to look back at this one and think “Did I really say that?”

“Dude… you simply don’t understand how primaries work. The reason that there is a combination of primary states and caucus states, is to obtain different types of information about the candidates and their supporters. It’s not purely about shallow popularity. Caucus states indicate the enthusiasm gap, and who’s team is smarter and more willing to go that extra mile and pound the pavement.”

Heather, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent statement were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Heather:

I wanted to attend this conference but the teenager, the elderly dad, and the high tech job took precedence.

So why didn’t you use your “high tech job” skills to hook up to the stunning Country Inn high speed internets facilities?

If only I were a pimply faced college student with zero social connection to the real world, then I would’ve been there.

Nah, if you were a college student, you’d have no interest in hanging out with an embittered claque of deranged cat ladies. You’d be out playing beer pong or something.

Oh, and good luck with the elderly dad if you nitwits succeed in getting John “Social Security is a disgrace” McCain elected.

The fact of the matter is that Hillary is the only politician in years who has stood up for white people. Even McCain is in bed with the Mexicans.

The fact of the matter is that Hillary is the only politician in years who has stood up for white people. Even McCain is in bed with the Mexicans.

K., did you get a link from Stormfront?

AnnaPUMA’s little comment tells me all I need to know about the “PUMA” crew.

Racism.

I would have voted for Hillary if she had been nominated. I’ll vote for Obama. I know one thing, though. Hillary Clinton does not support racism, and does not represent people like you.

Thank God.

K., did you get a link from Stormfront?

Not that I’m aware of, but Kos did feature this post on his front page, so some negative comments may be coming from my web hosting company. I can’t believe how much traffic I’m getting now.

Kevin,

Your fine work has been relayed across the net, and is currently Digging up:

Jeff, thanks.  I see you’ve been promoting the link around the web.  Thanks a bunch. Appreciated.

“Futurevizion” spewed:

We closed the conference after the first 60 because we wanted to minimize the infiltration of individuals and groups such as yourself and the LaRouchians

And yet, Webster Tarpley was there.  That would indicate that you’re actively recruiting the LaRouchies.

Kos did feature this post on his front page, so some negative comments may be coming from my web hosting company. I can’t believe how much traffic I’m getting now.

BTW, I think futurevizion may be a prankster.  Someone with the same name was toying with the knuckleheads at Confluence.

Give it up, futureviz, you’re “playing PUMA,” aren’t you?

Ah, look, you’ve got a den of crazed kitties now, Kevin. Give ‘em some catnip and they’ll be better.

We closed the conference after the first 60 because we wanted to minimize the infiltration of individuals and groups such as yourself and the LaRouchians.

That’s a really good excuse. I’d run with that one. It’ll keep the rest of the kitties happy. But, um, isn’t ol’ grandad Webster Tarpley a “LaRouchian”?

Hey, you also got this link—which is probably good for 18 million hits!!!!1!1!!!!!

Thanks for the link, Steve.  It’s pretty funny when even PUMAs can’t figure out what they stand for.

Who’s the cutie running the registration desk? She looks a little dazed in that last picture. She should be happy; she is just about the only one there that won’t lose their social security check if McCain becomes president.

Kevin,

Looks like the pictures are gone… :(

Kevin, great story and I have referred to it on my blog.

Does anyone besides me see the makings of another comedy like “The Producers” in this story? Look at the characters - Murphy, Webster, Tarpley, each already an overdrawn character. Add a shadowy Republican handler, an even more shadowy Republican money man, someone handling the booking of interviews, a coordinator to get the PUMA people to show up for interviews, two or three dumb-as-post true believers who think the thing is serious, and have all of them out to scam each other for as much money as they can get while the getting is good.

Run the story through a series of events like this convention from the initial organization to the Democratic convention.

A good comedy writer should be able to go to town on this story. It almost writes itself.

How did the media allow this tiny tiny Republican group so much press to make it APPEAR we weren’t unified? Laughable!:)

Pignuts,

Yeah, I was surprised. Every PUMA gathering picture promoted at Riverdaughter is chock full of the elast attractive human beings I have ever seen. At least I know if I ever run across these folks there’s a slight chance of seeing an attractive woman instead of no chance.

“A good comedy writer should be able to go to town on this story. It almost writes itself.”

You’re right!  I hope Christopher Guest & company get on this one!  Thank you Kevin.  This story and the whole thread has truly brightened up a very soggy Friday afternoon here in the Mile High City (and I am so totally turning out for the PUMA parade - think they’ll need more than one van to bring them in?)

PUMA actually stands for Political Unanism (they can’t even spell Onanism, you see?) for Menopausal Americans.

Thank god for rumproast.  PUMA’s are a joke.  haha!  I can’t stop laughing!!!. lol. Hardball did a great job.

Hillary does not even want to have nothing to do with this group called PUMA’s. lol…..

Per MSNBC, In the primary states, not counting Michigan or Florida, Barack Obama got the equivalent of 50% of the popular vote, Hillary Clinton got 49.99%

Yes, they were that close.  Two decimals, not one, that’s how close the vote was.

However, Hillary Clinton won 27 more pledged delegates.
Hillary Clinton also won 40 more congressional districts than Barack Obama.

What Schuster didn’t say, and what none of you picked up on, was that the only way Barack Obama wins the nomination is because of the rigged caucus contests.

Schuster agreed to throw out the caucus contests along with Florida and Michigan results so he could chortle that Barack Obama still won the popular vote in the remaining primaries.
Schuster brayed that Barack Obama won most of the popular votes, then later on toned it down by saying Barack Obama won the majority of the popular vote, implying that it was a butt kicking.

This turned out to be a lie, 50.00% to 49.99% is not a butt kicking, but if you want to argue that it is, then Hillary Clinton winning 27 more pledged delegates than Barack Obama in the primaries is an outright thrashing.

I find it comical that you think Schuster accomplished anything with his interview.  All Schuster accomplished by acting like a district attorney, not an investigator investigating news, was the bias MSNBC has displayed throughout the entire race.

Even though I haven’t found the actual documentation I need, I know that Barack Obama gained most of his superdelegates during the time he was LOSING the popular vote and the pledged delegates to Hillary Clinton over the final 10 weeks of the campaign.  This goes completely against what the Barack side has argued all along, that the super delegates should not change the outcome of the race.

It is clear that over the final 10 weeks of the campaign, the super delegates did indeed vote for the weaker candidate in that same time span, Barack Obama.

If you want proof of how pathetic PUMA is, consider 2 facts:

a) they raised a mere $50,000 - as the spokes-creature told Schuster. At an average of $100/person, the grand total of Pumabescent people is…. 500. If donations averaged $500 per person, you end up with a mighty phalanx of 100 Pumas!

b) The average blog entry in the PUMA site gets fewer than 20 comments (15 is actually pretty high).  That suggests you are looking at a miniscule group. especially when some of the comments are telling the PUMAs how dumb they are, and some are by the same person twice or thrice over.

PUMA - not a living lion, more of a dead cat.

I tripped over the PUMA conference today, and it asked me for 10 cents for coffee.  Funny, the things you encounter on the corner with cardboard signs…..

Alessandro—so I guess it doesn’t matter that Clinton’s campaign agreed, along with all of the others, to the disqualification of MI and FL’s results when they initially moved the primaries up, and then raised the ruckus over “count all the votes” only when it turned out she would need to get them in order to win the nomination?

Even though I haven’t found the actual documentation I need

When you do have the documentation, let us know. Until then, you’re just trying to spin “facts” out of thin air.

What Schuster didn’t say, and what none of you picked up on, was that the only way Barack Obama wins the nomination is because of the rigged caucus contests.

In what way were the caucuses “rigged?” It’s not as if they changed the way delegates were being assigned as the caucuses unfolded. Everyone knew exactly what they needed to do to get the delegates.

HAHAHAHA!

Oh dear, what a sad bunch.  Actually, are there enough of them there to call a “bunch”?  PUMAtastic!  I seriously cannot stop laughing.  Thanks for this… it’s great to start off the morning with peals of laughter.

Now, if they were trying so hard to hide why would anyone take these pictures?? And more importantly how did they “magically” ended in your hands?

JSND & PUMA being a coalitions of tons of groups
are infiltrated by all sort of people with their own agendas in mind that have nothing to do with
the real reason for its formation.

One more question, if in your view PUMA and JSND are so irrelevant why are you wasting ALL these
time and energy on them? The clever thing to do would be to ignore them if they are something—as you claim—not to worry about.

Why not investing your time and energy making the case for Obama the candidate you feel so strongly about? Seems extolling his agenda and political positions is what their TRUE supporters should do. Instead you seem to spend 100% of your time
insulting everyone else as if that would elevate
the good qualities of Obama…. right.

I doubt that Alessandro will be back, but still…

Schuster brayed that Barack Obama won most of the popular votes, then later on toned it down by saying Barack Obama won the majority of the popular vote, implying that it was a butt kicking.

Alessandro, do you realize that “more” and “majority” are the same thing? Don’t the PUMAs allow you access to a dictionary when they’re handing out pounce points (or whatever the hell they call them). If the majority of the marbles are pink then there are MORE pink marbles than green. Get it now?

JSND & PUMA being a coalitions of tons of groups
are infiltrated by all sort of people with their own agendas in mind that have nothing to do with
the real reason for its formation.

JSND & PUMA don’t apply any filters to their anti-Obama world.  Pretending that Martin and Tarpley “infiltrated” their group is laughable. Martin’s been on at least one of those ultra-top-secret JSND conference calls and, as noted in the post, Tarpley’s hung out with Bower before. PUMAs (aka piss-poor progressives) don’t care about their backgrounds or their beliefs.  All PUMAs care about is that they hate Obama as much as they do. Just take a look at comments on PUMA blogs these days and see how everyone’s so worried that the awful MSM, the Obama campaign and liberal blogs are picking on that loathsome douchebag Jerome Corsi. If you don’t think that’s worthy of condemnation, maybe you and me aren’t reading from the same Democratic playbook.

One more question, if in your view PUMA and JSND are so irrelevant why are you wasting ALL these
time and energy on them? The clever thing to do would be to ignore them if they are something—as you claim—not to worry about.

I’d love to if the media would ignore them, too. Why don’t you have a chat with all of the reporters lined up to interview them first?  Since they don’t do any of the research required before they interview them and almost never balance it with opposing points of view, it’s left to a small handful of bloggers to pick up the slack. Bower barks out 2.5 million members and they just take it at face value.  The reason I do what I do is I hope that maybe, just maybe, they’ll Google a bit and land on a post like this before the next interview and actually question Bower as to how he came up with that number.

Why not investing your time and energy making the case for Obama the candidate you feel so strongly about?

There are plenty of blogs doing that. I do snark and I like to train my fire on liars and hypocrites.  That’s what I do. Go elsewhere if you don’t like it.  I’ll never be your Chris Bowers.*

* Yes, I’m going to use that line whenever I can.

“I like to train my fire on liars and hypocrites”

And thank you for doing it so well Kevin.  This is my new favorite blog.

Is there anything in Revelation about a plague of bitter, attention-starved spinsters?  No?  Whew… close one.

Remember PUMAs, we’re not laughing at you, we’re laughing really hard at you…

You can laugh all you want. We aren’t really angry ..just resolved.. and we are NOT voting for Obama. Just like good mothers know how to handle cranky, whiney, and nasty children, we just unemotionally state our case and vote accordingly. The DNC was really horrific. We won’t be rolled over. A large portion 18 million votes going to McCain will cause Obama to lose. So, ok DEMS - play all the games you want - you lose. COUNT ON IT !!

“You can laugh all you want.”

THAT’S a relief.

You would think that at least 1% of the thousands of Team McCain plants who are out to ratfuck the Democrats by pretending to be PUMAs, thereby encouraging the sad few dozen authentic PUMAs who are still around and on teh internets, would have contributed some money and shown up to this conference, so as to keep the ruse going.

But they probably recognize that McCain’s overt campaign needs the money worse.

It amazes me that the bona fide PUMAs haven’t cottoned on to the fact that the only thing making the PUMA movement look like it has more than one busload of true-blue anti-Obama Hillary supporters is the army of Republicans pretending to be PUMAs, starting with their leader, Darragh.

But it makes it easy to deal with them: since chances are very, very high—approaching 100%—that any internet PUMA is really a Republican ratfucker, call them out on it.

Sally, go fuck yourself, you Republican ratfucker.

I see Darragh and Will, but no Cristi.  Ah, dear.  She’s got other problems.

How old are some of you?

Your responses are really surprisingly fallow and have completely misunderstood my points.  You remind me of Tom Leykis, spending their time tearing down others (whether valid or not), but too afraid to either build anything up or try and do anything yourself.

Sort of like grumpy old people in younger bodies.

Lets be clear here, I AGREE TO WHAT SCHUSTER PROPOSED in the very video you can’t seem to comprehend.  SCHUSTER SAID, “Throw out Michigan and Florida, AND throw out the caucus results.”

Based on SCHUSTER’S premise, Hillary Clinton WON MORE PLEDGED DELEGATES in the primaries than Barack Obama.  Barack Obama won the popular vote by the slimest of margins, 50.00% to 49.99%. (again, not counting Florida or Michigan).

As for Schuster making a big deal of the 50K that her group raised, there are several groups that have raised their own money.  The Denver group has raised a lot because they have put their Hillary Clinton ads in the largest newspapers. By the way, 50,000 dollars is more than twice as much as the final margin that Barack Obama appears to have beaten Hillary Clinton in the popular vote, when Florida and Michigan are not counted. 

So if 50,000 dollars is small, then 21,000 vote differential for 31.5 million votes cast is microscopic.

By the way, 50,000 dollars is more than twice as much as the final margin that Barack Obama appears to have beaten Hillary Clinton in the popular vote, when Florida and Michigan are not counted.

Imagine how huge of a number it would be if you counted it in pennies instead of dollars!

I have to agree with Alessandro -

The $50K doesn’t include all the oodles of cash raised to FREE LARRY SINCLAIR… you think those kilts fancied by his attorney are cheap to dry clean?

I have friends in Michigan, Hillary was NOT the popular choice among democrats, in fact in the primary she was the only choice on the democratic ticket.

The democratic primary, because the voters were NOT happy about a Hillary Clinton manipulated ballot (orchestrated by Gov. Granholm), only 20% of democratic voters came out to the polls.

Hillary got only 55.2% of that 20%, 40% of the rest voted Uncommitted, rather than vote for her. The majority stayed home because the candidates of their choice were NOT on the ballot. The majority of democrats in Michigan detest Hillary Clinton and would never vote for her. That doesn’t even speak to the issue of independents, who despise her as well.

I’m 44, a woman (traditional feminist), lifelong liberal democrat, I’m of native ancestry, and caught you PUMA’s having created a fake “Native American for Hillary” site, here’s a clue, you ought to know what you’re talking about before pretending to be something you’re not.

I voted for Bill Clinton twice, and REGRET it! I only wish that he had not won the whitehouse, because he laid the groundwork for half of what George W. Bush has been able to get away with.

Only an ignorant dupe would consider Hillary’s lousy voting record in the senate, her corruption as not important. Her PUMA scammers censor any reporting of her hypocrisies, because they find the truth inconvenient.

Hillary’s supporters came together to support her and the issues Obama is now adopting. BHO’s supports are by an far infest the internet in larger more vocal and more adversarial. Why well the dream they had driven by the Axlerod marketing machine has been slipping since February.

omyvolvo I’m glad that you voted correctly for Bill, that is if you believe in the Democratic message. Bill didn’t prepare the nation for W’s entre into the Whitehouse. The Rove, Gingrich machine did. Now it seems that as BHO’s numbers fall his supporters decry Hillary for his trouble instead of Barack. Barack’s talent is actaully in elections and not government. He see his role as prophet, or messianic in which he will lead and not actually do anything.

His drop in the poles after the saddleback could very well be called the Barack’s Brokeback tipping point. His problem is becoming apparent to everyone. He in fact was wrong about not looking like the other guys on the dollar and five dollar bills. He does. He is colored just like our money. He is colored Green. He is inexperienced in legal practice, inexperienced law creation, inexperience in management, inexperienced in economics, he is as shallow as W. We don’t need that kind of inexperience in Government…again.

Alessandro sed:

(I need this one verified but I think it is completely accurate and therefore a fact).

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Even though I haven’t found the actual documentation I need, I know that Barack Obama gained most of his superdelegates during the time he was LOSING the popular vote and the pledged delegates to Hillary Clinton over the final 10 weeks of the campaign.

Do I see a pattern emerging here?

Just as a note: There were neither 60 nametags on that table nor room for 60 to be laid out.

Oh, and both the Gmail and Yahoo spam filters caught the PUMA mailings.  For the non-geeks in the room, that means they were in fact spam (in this case: “email being sent by a small number of individuals pretending to be a large number of different people”).  The false-positive rates of these two sites’ smap filters is extremely low.

-chris

“sociopathic billionaire George Soros “

This made me laugh, George Soros is the most socially responsible billionaire in the world, but he doesn’t spread money around American politics like Scaiffe, Coors, Black, and Addelson, ( and on and on ) These clowns are the real sociopaths.

George Soros really pisses of the right-wing because he spreads his money around the world promoting civil society. Good God that pisses them off.

So they tell their media whores to smear him, accusing him of being exactly what they are.

And this fool repeats it here.

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